Outpost Packet Message Manager

Platform Support


 

Here's what you will find on this page...

Serial (Direct Connect) TNCs
AGWPE-supported TNCs
Operating Systems
BBS and PBBS's
Troubleshooting


Serial Terminal Node Controllers (TNCs)

One of the critical design assumptions around Outpost was that it would (or could be made to) work with any TNC out there.  The TNC setup window allows you to either use the default TAPR2 TNC commands, or define a different set if your TNC requires that.  So far, all Outpost users have reported that the default command set has worked with what they have.  Needless to say, not all TNCs have been verified.

Confirmed Functional
Here's what has been observed or reported.

TNC Notes, Date confirmed
AEA DSP-232 20-Jul-03, by KN6PE
AEA PK-232 (1) 10-Apr-06, by KC8VHR
AEA PK-88 (1) 6-Mar-05, by KC8VHR
AEA PK-90 4-Oct-05, by VE3SJO
AEA PK-96 30-Jun-05, by VE3KR
Kantronics KAM (3,4) 20-Jul-03, by KN6PE
Kantronics KPC3 (4) 11-Jul-03, by KB9MMC
Kantronics KPC3+ (4) 10-Dec-04, by KN6PE
Kantronics KPC9612x (4) 14-Mar-08, by KN6PE
Kantronics MT-1200 11-Jul-2008, by KD7QWZ
Kenwood TM-D700 radio with built in TNC (2) 30-Jul-03, by Jerry
Kenwood TM-D700A radio with built in TNC (2) 20-Oct-03, by K6FUZ
Kenwood TS-2000's built-in TNC 7-Jan-05, by Dave N6DWC
MFJ-1270B 21-Oct-03, by KG6POV
MFJ-1270C 30-Jun-05, by VE3KR
MFJ-1274 20-Oct-03, by WN6I
MFJ-1278 30-Jun-05, by VE3KR

 

1. Notes on AEA PK-232, PK-88

You have to first load the TNC's with basic settings using Packrat... then they work fine with Outpost.

 

2. Notes on the Kenwood D700.  

Please see the note from George SV2AGW and his information on the Kenwood D7 Handhelds and D700 Mobile at http://www.elcom.gr/sv2agw/hardware.htm.  He has done a nice job summarizing the situation and the deficiencies of these 2 radios, particularly their use with Packet.

 

7/1/07.  Excerpts from the Outpost users group on the D700:  "The Kenwood Radios with the TNCs built in are only to be used for APRS they are not suitable for Outpost or Winlink in that configuration, but with the TNC turned off and a out- board TNC of good quality, the radio works very well."

 

Additionally, "The Tasco modem chipset used in the Kenwood and Alinco data radios have very limited buffers.  They were created to receive the relatively short APRS data streams.  For APRS and DXCluster messages, I think they work fine.  They are just unsuitable for general purpose packet messaging where the message size overloads the buffer."

 

3. Note on KAM

Very early versions of this TNC apparently have problems.  For instance, for KAM firmware versions as early as v2.06, at least one user has reported receiving a INVALID STREAM messages when connecting to a telpac node, resulting in Outpost exiting unintentionally.  While complete testing has not been performed, early versions of KAM firmware may be problematic.  See the Kantronics/Firmware website for the history.

 

4. Notes on KPC's and KAMs

There are a few TNC commands that are popping up that need to be set correctly at the Outpost side for the TNC to work.  These settings are:

 

cmd: LFadd OFF

cmd: Streamev OFF

cmd: Streamsw 0 

 

See the TNC's users guide for details on these commands.

 

5. Problematic

The following TNCs have been reported to be problematic and are not supported.

  • Kenwood Th-D7A - does not support HW flow control; will re-verify once AGWPE support is in place (1/24/05)
  • Alinco DR235 w/ EJ-41U - problems downloading messages.  No reason identified by Outpost users.

6. Pending verification

The following TNCs have not been verified.

  • pakratt232 - not confirmed (1/24/05). 

If you have verified a different TNC, please let me know and I will add it to the list.

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AGWPE-supported TNCs

Because Outpost supports AGWPE, all of the AGWPE-supported TNCs should work with Outpost as well.  However, they all have not been confirmed with Outpost.  If you have tried one and can confirm it operational, please let me know and I will update the list below accordingly.

Check out George SV2AGW's link of AGWPE drivers and modems (TNCs) for what is supported with AGWPE and on what O/S, as well as the AGWPE download section.  In the meantime, the following is a list of the AGWPE supported TNCs..

TNC Notes
Any TNC with KISS mode  
Baycom Dummy Modem  
Baycom Picpar 96  
Baycomm USCC  
DRSI Cards  
G4XYW 9600  
Kantronics, all models  
Kenwood D7, D700, D710, TS2000  
MFJ, all models  
mUSB TNT, all models  
DRSI PCPA-1  
DRSI PCPA-2  
DRSI PCPA-3  
DRSI PCPA-4 1296  
G4XYW 9k6 modem  
Nord><Link Eprom  
OE5DXL 9600b  
OptoScc (4 ports)  
PetSCC  
Sound Card Parallel Port PTT  
Sound Card Serial Port PTT  
Sytek, all models  
Tigertronics BP-2m  
Tigertronics BP-96  
Tigertronics Signalink USB 3/23/08: Not listed in the AGWPE pull-down TNC list.  However, see the write-up on how to configure AGWPE with Tigertronics Signalink
TNC 2 and clones  
TNC-X 4/1/08: Not listed in the AGWPE pull-down TNC list.  However, see the write-up on how to configure AGWPE with TNC-X
WA8DED TNC2  
YAM  

If you do not see your specific TNC on this list, it may still work, but just not listed.  George SV2AGW's drivers and modems link states that all TNCs with KISS mode is supported (last entry).  This may also apply to off-board sound-card TNCs such as the Tigertronics Signalink USB TNC.  You may need to  experiment with AGWPE and different options with you particular device to determine if it is supported.

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Verified Operating Systems

Outpost has been confirmed to work on the following OS platforms:

 

Microsoft Operating Systems

  • Windows 98

  • Windows NT

  • Windows 2000

  • Windows ME

  • Windows XP

  • Windows VISTA

One user has Outpost running on Windows 95 (out of Microsoft Support life); see the Outpost-on-Window95 application note.

If you get Outpost to work on a Windows '95 platform, please do the following:  Go to START, Select Run, then type winver  (for Windows Version), then press enter.  The current Windows OS information will be displayed.  Please send me the information listed on this form.

Linux

  • Ubuntu Linux v6.10, under Wine

March 2007.  Two users have successfully installed and used Outpost v2.1 under Wine on a laptop running Linux.  While extensive testing was not performed, it was reported that the user was able to transfer messages both via TNC/radio (a Kenwood D7A no less) and via telnet connection.  Another user reported it running on his laptop, but was painfully slow.  Watch for an update or application note in the area.

Intel MAC Book Pro 

7 August 2007.  John KC9KKO reported the following: "This week I installed Outpost on my INTEL Mac Book Pro and it runs nicely.  First I installed a product called Crossover MAC from the Codeweavers site, then ran the OUTPOST installation executable, and then ran OUTPOST.  I configured it to access the BBS’s using the TELNET.  It works, and it didn’t take any effort thanks to a well written application.  I might tackle serial port access in a couple of weeks."

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updated:  July 11, 2008